scrottie ([info]scrottie) wrote,

LJ itself

http://valleywag.gawker.com/5124184/the-russian-bear-slashes-a-social-network

There were only 28 people here? Fuck. Shopzilla had hundreds. And it spent a *lot* more CPU on each page view for probably about the same amount of advertising on each page.

If this Paulson guy was dumb to "buy at the top of the bubble", he's also an idiot to divest at the bottom of it. If you have 20 engineers who can build and scale something like this, they're worth their weight in gold. Sign them for a life contract. Auction them offer. Whatever. But you don't lay them off.

And no, you can't just replace them. These people spent years building a complex system. Anyone else hired later would not only have to spend the same amount of time finding their way around it, but would make mistakes in the process, and wouldn't ever have the same love for it as its creators. All programmers want to write new code, not maintain a large pile of existing code, and the best programmers get to. It's the second best that get stuck with the maintenance jobs. Too much work, too little glory. So the best programmers won't even want the job if they do try to rehire for the roles.

This smacks of dotcom boom stuff where a large, stupid companies buys a nimble, smart one for a huge amount of money intending to buy them for their customers, gets cold feet, then just throws the whole company away, customers, engineering, product, and all.

Sorry for the pundity soapbox shit but this is kinda close to home. I have to go on record for the engineers here.

-scott

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[info]azurelunatic

January 6 2009, 10:01:28 UTC 3 years ago

The Valley Wag has done its usual careful job of checking its numbers; someone I was talking to in IRC (I don't know if they'd like to be identified, but an employee) said 13 known to be gone, and 17 possibly remaining, of the US-based employees, including the remote ones.

[info]wholesomedick

January 6 2009, 20:24:20 UTC 3 years ago

Brad never should have sold it.

[info]azurelunatic

January 6 2009, 20:27:24 UTC 3 years ago

No kidding.

I happened to load the news-post where Brad announced the sale in the maybe two minutes where Brad said that the sale was financially necessary. So with that information I'd rather have LJ in SUP's hands than no LJ at all, but it still sucks.

[info]msilverstar

January 6 2009, 23:51:41 UTC 3 years ago

Just wandered by and I want to say how much I agree with you. Did you see the code for the Zune bug? Stupid logic and constants instead of any kind of respectable code. Not a lot of error-checking either. Some poor kid got told to write the boring date code, and no one seems to have done a code review.

Can you tell I used to be a software product manager?

SUP might avoid some of the problems because their Russian staff has had a while to get up to speed, and there is an open source community for all the code they've shared. But yeah, scaling is non-trivial, and just dumping engineers (and designers and SUPPORT STAFF) is cutting of their nose to spite their face. Feh.

[info]scrottie

January 7 2009, 14:22:29 UTC 3 years ago

Yeah, saw the Zune date code. I could be wrong, but I *think* it's actually SDK code from Freescale for using the multifunction part (RTC, charging logic, DIO, etc) whose part number I forget. Microsoft just copied it and added their own copyright on top of Freescale's. And at the risk of being overly contrary, I didn't think the code really raised any red flags. If a program is written out long, enumerating possibilities, someone will get annoyed at its length and make it more concise. If it's too terse, there will be those who want to rewrite it more explicitly. And every program builds in assumptions. Date time code *has* to build in assumptions. I'd be curious to see the tests written for the code. This reminds me of a fun bug report filed against VMS... or rather, a fun reply to a bug report:

http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/joke/decly.htm

Good reading =)

Cheers,
-scott
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